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12 November 2008 @ 08:36 am
Enterprise flash ficlet for: "Broken Bow"  
Hehe, why not?

Post-ep for: "Broken Bow"
Pairings: None

"You asked her to stay!?" Trip sounds shocked, angry, a little betrayed. He doesn't seem entirely disgusted, though, which is probably the best Archer could have hoped for, despite Trip's surprised endorsement of the Vulcan sub-commander's helpful actions while Archer was unconscious.

"We need her, Trip."

"You're telling me now we need the Vulcans looking over our shoulders."

It does sound wrong when Trip says it, and reminds Archer of the fifty good reasons he should have sent T'Pol packing, as opposed to the fifty-one good reasons to keep her around. A good captain needs the best officers at every post, and he'd be a stubborn fool – and a prideful one, as T'Pol pointed out – to deprive his crew of her expertise just because he can't stand her arrogant, condescending race. "She's not here as a spy."

Trip rolls his eyes. "Right. I'm sure she's just staying because she likes the way we smell."

It's a good point, and one he hadn't considered.

T'Pol told him in his ready room, before the mission, that she'd be just as emotionlessly delighted to get the hell off the human ship as they would be to get rid of her. At the time, she didn't much sound like she thought spying on them was worth the aggravation.

There are probably more than fifty-one reasons why he did the right thing in asking her to stick around. When Jon thinks about it, though, he has no idea why she agreed to stay.

Maybe he still has a few things to learn about Vulcans after all.

*end*

This brought up an interesting question about Enterprise fanfic (and fanfic in general) that has plagued the generations:

What's yer thoughts 'bout spellin' out Trip's [or anyone's] accent?

Unnecessary. I can fill in the southern charm in my head, but it doesn't bug me if a writer does it.
7(19.4%)
Awful! Every time I see a dropped g or a cap'n or a misspelled word for dialect purposes, I want to smack a bitch!
17(47.2%)
I prefer it when there's a nod to a character's accent in how a writer spells the words. It's not totally crucial, but something seems a bit off when it's not there.
8(22.2%)
Totally necessary! The character sounds completely out-of-character in my head unless his accent is spelled out.
1(2.8%)
I fills out yer poll, but I dun give you any informations. (Omg! A poll!!1!)
3(8.3%)
 
 
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tarkheena lizzeeen: sga [If you prick us do we not bleed?]liminalliz on November 12th, 2008 05:04 pm (UTC)
omg i love it love it love it!!!!!!!
Little Red: trek - enterprise porn - liminallizmylittleredgirl on November 12th, 2008 05:07 pm (UTC)
You know, *I'm* not sure why she agreed to stay! Later on in the series it becomes more evident that she's not totally comfortable with her own people because she's The Worst Vulcan Ever, but at this point, you'd think her fear of the bad-Vulcan side of herself would have sent her scurrying right back to the Vulcan Compound.

Clearly, her hot half-naked argument in decon with Trip changed her mind. (OH DECON, why are you so obviously pseudosex!?)
tarkheena lizzeeen: st [we'll always have paris]liminalliz on November 12th, 2008 05:39 pm (UTC)
RANDOM COMMENT: I WISH THERE WERE MORE VULCANS IN DS9. It has an extreme lack of vulcans, dude. aaj;sldfjsdkj ~*ds9*~

ON TOPIC: Yes, they hobvs didn't have T'Pol's motives in line in early Enterprise and I looooooove your comment on how Travis was so useful and lovely in early s1. I remember flipping from s1 to s4 and being very o.0 with the EXTREME CHARACTER CHANGES. Bless.

DECON. Oh UPN, you skanktastic channel. <3 I watched that premiere with a room full of college aged male nerds. Their howling reactions will forever be marked in my memory, oh shameless, shameless Enterprise!

Little Red: trek - enterprise porn - liminallizmylittleredgirl on November 12th, 2008 05:51 pm (UTC)
Don't you!??? I also noticed the decided lack of Vulcans on DS9, but not until they had that one episode about a rampaging Vulcan killing peeps and were all "Oh, there are LOADS of Vulcans on DS9! TONS!" and I was all "Rilly?"

I'd love to get a look at the pre-series character writer's bible for Enterprise, wouldn't you? I think I saw one for Voyager once early on and was all "OH RILLY?" because they said B'Elanna was destined for Tom from the get-go. INNERESTING!

Decon, UPN, omgwtflol. It's fabulous. I love that TWoP called it "The Blue Lights of Gratuitous Nekkidity" because IT SO IS! But perhaps never so gratuitous as in the pilot, when you're all "......!!!!!!!!!" as Trip's all fondling T'Pol's ears for no good reason and we get unnecessary shots of everyone all turned on.
tarkheena lizzeeen: st [teach me to read good]liminalliz on November 12th, 2008 06:09 pm (UTC)
OH TROOFAX ON THAT COUNT. I also love the Behind the Scenes story of them mulling over which planet would be invaded by the Dominion, Vulcan or Betazed (omg sp?) and they were all BUT NO! WE CAN'T INVADE VULCAN! And I'm thinking: WHY DO YOU CARE ABOUT VULCAN? WE AREN'T INVESTED IN THAT PLANET AT ALL!

WHAT I WOULD GIVE TO READ PRE-SERIES BIBLES FOR MY SHOWS. O RLLY, was the B'Elanna/Tom ship a rocky road (as they usually are?); my only knowledge of possibly NOT shipping B'Elanna/Tom was a random episode I watched where Kes was married to him in the future. (wtf was up with Kes? What was she supposed to embody as part of the crew?)

OMG EAR FONDLING. And their OBSESSION with our EARS. *hearts all over teh place*

LR, WE GET A STAR TREK MOVIE TRAILER ON FRIDAY. ON FRIDAAAAAAAY.
Jeff's LiveJournaljfpbookworm on November 12th, 2008 05:09 pm (UTC)
If you (generic you) render accents, you really have to get it right. I find that a lot of writers tend to go overboard when writing out accents, meaning any character with a Southern accent gets more apostrophes than a bad fantasy novel, every character with a Scottish accent reads like a Robert Burns poem, etc. Trip's accent doesn't strike me as thick enough to bother rendering most of the time.
Jainabrightcupenny on November 12th, 2008 06:25 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it's really easy to overdo it. Rendering "I" as "Ah," for example, is almost guaranteed to drive me crazy (X-Men I'm looking at you!).
Little Red: b5 - ivanova oven - crazybeemylittleredgirl on November 12th, 2008 06:40 pm (UTC)
I KNOW! It just makes them seem like morons, and makes me read each line of dialogue three times slower than everything else.

Oh, but NOTHING makes me angrier than when it's from someone's point of view, and the NON-DIALOGUE prose is rendered for accent!

FOR REAL, PEOPLE, WE DO NOT THINK WITH ACCENTS.
Little Redmylittleredgirl on November 12th, 2008 06:33 pm (UTC)
That's very true, and that drives me up the wall. Trip's accent is thick enough to slice in the pilot, but it does mellow out as the series progresses. I am okay with the occasional -in' at the end of a word, but that's as far as I go. Replacing letters with apostrophes is OK, respelling words is not.
mysticalweather: SGA: (spubba) OMG ONOESmysticalweather on November 12th, 2008 09:54 pm (UTC)
I totally agree.

I can barely stomach SGA Carson fic because of the over accent-ness of the writers. Drives me up the wall! Yes, he's Scottish, I get it! But if you write in-character material, you don't need the "ack, ye lassie, just a wee bit more" stuff to make it "sound" right. He's a man *not* a leprechaun, fcol.

And respelling words for accents? Noooooo no no... I had to read a transcript for Madame Butterfly once. The whole thing took me ages to do because it was done with Japanese accent spelling. I've never gotten over it. ;)

*looks down at soap box...gets down quickly* Whoops, how'd I get up here?

Hehe...

Little Red: b5 - ivanova oven - crazybeemylittleredgirl on November 12th, 2008 10:07 pm (UTC)
I know! And really, Carson *does* use those words, just not TWELVE OF THEM IN EVERY SENTENCE. Yeesh. You start expecting him to be ardently protecting his lucky charms or something.

That's still the greatest icon ever.
Fallon Ash: emily howdyfallon_ash on November 12th, 2008 05:17 pm (UTC)
I'm with bookworm above, that it's something you have to be careful with. If it's well done I like it, but at the same time the misspellings burn my eyes a little. And not overdoing it is really really important. The occasional accent-inspired turn of phrase, or a few really specific words is usually enough.

And I'd also say that it's less important when it's a TV-character, because then you usually (hopefully) hear their voice in your head when you read anyway, but if you're building a written-only character from scratch then it's much more important to spell out the accent to give the character a specific voice.
Little Redmylittleredgirl on November 12th, 2008 06:40 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that seems logical with original characters. Very smart, you are.
Clyde: michael by nel for me :Dsuzvoy on November 12th, 2008 05:55 pm (UTC)
he has no idea why she agreed to stay

Rubbing oil into a practically nekkid Trip, that's why ;)
Little Red: trek - enterprise porn - liminallizmylittleredgirl on November 12th, 2008 06:41 pm (UTC)
I think you might be right! There's really no other reason at this point.

And Trip has some serious guns in that episode -- it has been so long since I've seen shirtless Trip, I'd almost FORGOTTEN! -- so T'Pol is TOTALLY within her sanity to stay for that reason alone.
Lannalanna_kitty on November 12th, 2008 06:26 pm (UTC)
written accents on a TV character are less important than a Book character since with TV you have an actor saying lines in the accent. in a book you don't have that benefit. However I don't mind written accents in my TV characters at long as it isn't overdone to the point of being obnoxious.
Little Redmylittleredgirl on November 12th, 2008 06:46 pm (UTC)
You're right, and that seems to be a common sentiment. The worst is when people use accent-rendering and it's not even dialogue. That drives me banana boats.