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15 November 2010 @ 11:24 pm
Star Trek, ILU.  
For awesome_women, I did a post for Jadzia Dax and Kira Nerys.

Good lord, I love Deep Space Nine. I can't really watch it while I'm doing other things, either, because I get all gripped. It's impossible to pick just one episode when you're loving on a particular character, because it's so arc-y. I guess my fallback episode(s) when I need a DS9 hit is the trilogy from the beginning of season 2 ("Homecoming"/"The Circle"/"The Siege"), because omgzzzz, that is the moment when I went YES, YES, THIS SHOW NEEDS TO BE THIS. And then it was. And it was good.

For the record, my current default-I-need-a-hit episodes for other shows:

SG-1: "Redemption"
Atlantis: "Hide & Seek"
Babylon 5: "Soul Mates"
TNG: "I, Borg"
Voyager: "Shattered"

Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm 90% sunshine and rainbows and snark. :-P
 
 
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a universal sigh: SGA - Weir - looking down smilenaushika on November 16th, 2010 09:19 am (UTC)
WHAT IS THAT COMMUNITY? I DON'T CARE ANYWAY, I JOINED IT. I'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS LATER, IT'S JUST OBVIOUS I MUST BE A PART OF IT.

I haven't watched DS9 in foreeeeeeeeeever! The thing I loved about Jadzia was how she was always cool, calm, and collected, no matter what was going on around her. Kira always kinda grated but once I realized that was the point of her character - that she was extremely confrontational - I grew to like her. XD

Omg. This should be a meme. Your Default I-Need-A-Hit Episodes. I'm going to steal that tomorrow. Most of your episodes are heart-wrenching. D: Hide & Seek is cute though. :D :D
Melyannamelyanna on November 16th, 2010 03:57 pm (UTC)
*shamelessly self-promotes* It's a comm for meta and picspams and general fangirling (or fanboying, but I don't know if we have any boys who are members) about fictional women! After the last kerfuffle about female characters being one-dimensional and boring and whatnot, I decided that I wanted a permanent place for talking about female characters being awesome. I was tired of just having periodic bursts of posts about women in response to things like that flowchart from a few weeks back.

Today is the last day of our first theme, which is women you'd want with you in a fight. At the top of the front page, there's a sticky post with a list of all the women who've been posted about (about 40 in all). I hope people continue to post after the theme is over, because my plan at the moment is to have those run every other month or so.
Little Red: sga - teyla girls only think - lizmylittleredgirl on November 16th, 2010 04:33 pm (UTC)
Awww, man! We should always have a theme! :) You could just roll up the links and add tags at the end of the theme so it doesn't require lots of modding.

I love this comm. :) It's great to have so much positivity in one place!
Melyannamelyanna on November 16th, 2010 05:09 pm (UTC)
Well, I've had feedback from others saying they'd rather not have themes all the time. Every other month seemed like a reasonable compromise.

The themes will be announced more in advance than this one was, so people will have more time to come up with what they want to post. I think this way, people who want to just post randomly can post randomly whenever they like, and people who want more structure can participate in the themes.
Little Red: sg - jonas dork - lindir_jaxmylittleredgirl on November 16th, 2010 04:36 pm (UTC)
My episodes are so not heart-wrenching. :-P "Redemption" is so lolarious! And "Shattered" is pure Voyager joy, I swears. :)

You know, actually, "Redemption" is prolly not my go-to episode (especially because it's really 2 episodes). I think that might be "Fail Safe." There was a month where I watched that like every day, haha.
Ridiculously Fanaticnel_ani on November 16th, 2010 12:37 pm (UTC)
OMG, I have the exact same I-need-a-hit eps for SGA and TNG! \o/ Though, with TNG I can vary a bit between Any Episode That Heavily Features Data.
Little Red: trek - boldly go - distress_callmylittleredgirl on November 16th, 2010 04:26 pm (UTC)
REALLY??? That makes me super happy! :) My "I just need to cuddle up to TNG and feel good about the world" episode is "The Big Goodbye" but when I'm missing the show in general... "I, Borg" is win. :) (Plus, I think "Cause and Effect" is on the same disc if I need a further hit.)

And awww, Data. Do you have a faaavorite Data episode? "Elementary, Dear Data" is way up there for me.
Ridiculously Fanatic: voy janeway by caffeynel_ani on November 16th, 2010 08:38 pm (UTC)
OMG I WAS GOING TO MENTION "CAUSE AND EFFECT" AFTER "I, BORG". O_O

(I totally want a big huge AU fic where Hugh does a Seven of Nine and joins the Enterprise. It would be GLORIOUS (and he'd be so cute minus a few implants!).)

Dataaaaa. Hmm, favorite ep... *looks through options* "The Offspring" is FANTASTIC, but hardly something I watch for kicks. And "The Most Toys" is fab too, but mostly for the kick in the gut at the end. "The Measure of Man"! But then I also really like the one with Bashir and the dreams...

OMG I CANNOT CHOOOOOOSE! ("Elementary, Dear Data" is brilliant too.)

From one thing to another, am I the only one who really likes Dr. Pulaski?

Edited at 2010-11-16 08:38 pm (UTC)
Little Red: trek - crusher riker laugh - yappichickmylittleredgirl on November 16th, 2010 08:49 pm (UTC)
WE ARE SERIOUS TNG TWINS.

I love Pulaski! My sister adores her. (We're big Crusher fans too - we're equal opportunity adorers.) You're right that most people seem to dislike her, but I love her cranky humor. :) Plus, she's a super-great doctor, which I love. Competence = big plus!

THE OFFSPRING. omg. LOVE that. Oh, and "Hero Worship"! I really like that episode too, for all its tearjerkiness. You know, I never really liked "The Most Toys," I must say, because I found it way too creepy as a kid and that never wore off. But "The Measure of a Man" is so unbelievably GREAT. Oh! Oh! And that time he has to command a ship against Romulans during the Klingon civil war...
Ridiculously Fanatic: voyager tom/b'elanna by vgrbabenel_ani on November 16th, 2010 09:22 pm (UTC)
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Pulaski ROCKS. She's basically Bones in female form (plus I loved the actress in TOS and also Alias Smith and Jones) and she starts off as the "ew, Data" character that develops into the the "DATA \o/" character, which I always adore.

Awwww, Hero Worship. D: It's good, but yeah, sad. I *LOVED* the ending of The Most Toys. I think it actually made me OMG outloud. HE TOOK THE SHOT. :-O

The Measure of Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. IT'S SO GOOD! Picard vs Riker, Riker having to do his best, Or Else.

I loved when he had to command a ship! But that was prolly a Worf ep...

Okay, so, favorite TNG ep, full stop, no matter how happy or sad?
Little Red: trek - mccoy is not an escalatormylittleredgirl on November 16th, 2010 10:14 pm (UTC)
Oh man!! Um. FULL STOP, I think I'm going to have to go with "Best of Both Worlds." It's still scary after all this time! (I love Riker in command. I love Guinan. I love the aaaangst and the destruction and the OMG BORG. I even love Shelby!)

Picard vs Riker, Riker having to do his best, Or Else.

YES. I love love love the last scene with Riker and Data when Riker's all feeling horrible about having to do that, and Data doesn't get it because Riker had to do it. Love that!

I have mixed feelings about the "Descent" 2-parter. Parts of it I can't handle (I just lose it when our characters get creepy and torture each other - I still can't watch "Darkling" from Voyager), but I love the Data angst, and I LOVE that it's real, complicated fallout from all well-meaning actions on the part of the Enterprise crew. When Hugh confronts them with all his tiny bitterness... oh man. "Hurts but it's great" is more DS9's forte, but that was such a perfect moment of that.

And PULASKI! We should start a Star Trek Doctors Fan Club, because they're all so great. I really enjoyed the bigoted parts of Pulaski's character because it was great seeing her get convinced of Data's supreme awesomeness. :) I like to pretend they keep in touch.
Ridiculously Fanatic: str kirk/enterprise otpnel_ani on November 16th, 2010 10:41 pm (UTC)
OH MAN! I was SO SURE OF MY ANSWER, and then you bring up BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. Okay, yes, that is totally the best one(s), because you're right, IT IS SCARY! It's the scariest the Borg have ever been, IMO, and I love that you start out HATING Shelby and then by the end, you like her (even when rewatching, I kinda wanna stab her, even though I *know* I end up liking her).

Before you brought up that FANTASTIC piece of television, I was torn between The Inner Light (how much do I love that the melody he plays on the flute is later touched upon?) or Darmok. The Inner Light because when I first saw it, I was all "really, this plot again?" AND THEN THEY MADE ME CRY. And man, Darmok, YES. THIS is what I love about scifi.

Oohhh, Descent. Yes, I agree, I loved the Data angst (shocker XD) and the fallout from the Hugh situation. It just makes me sad that that was the last of Hugh. :(

I really enjoyed the bigoted parts of Pulaski's character because it was great seeing her get convinced of Data's supreme awesomeness. :) I like to pretend they keep in touch.

Yes! She was flawed, yet awesome, like every great character. \o/ And they TOTALLY keep in touch, Data sends her these hourlong transmissions with TMI and she totally listens to every minute.

SPEAKING OF FANTASTIC DOCTORS: the EMH. Man, talk about character development. <33333333333333333

Okay. V IMPORTANT QUESTION. What are your feelings on First Contact?
Little Red: trek - ani jazzhands - rightoniconsmylittleredgirl on November 16th, 2010 11:14 pm (UTC)
I just asked my sister and she voted for "The Inner Light." And Darmok! SO FABULOUS!! The reason why I like Best of Both Worlds over those is because everyone gets to do something, and I always love my Star Trek best in ensemble episodes.

HUGH :( :( And whatever happened to the disease of individualism sweeping through the Borg anyway? IDK!

OH MAN, ALL THE DOCS ARE SO EPIC. Phlox is so great on Enterprise. And the EMH! Truly the photonic heart of that show. And Bashir... so ridiculous, and it's so great to watch him mature and terrible watching him getting beaten down by life. And about Pulaski, yes, flawed & awesome. I love my flawed characters, which is why Kira, B'Elanna and Ro Laren are such fun.

FIRST CONTACT. I LOVE THAT MOVIE OMG. Seriously, it's like my favorite movie. Freaking James Cromwell! And his awesome assistant! And Worf on the Defiant and Troi getting hammered and Geordi and Barclay fanboying Zephram Cochrane and truly, truly, I LOVE EET. I have to say that I wasn't totally sold on the Borg Queen idea when I first saw it because it personalized the Borg when I liked them as kind of a faceless relentless enemy you could never have a conversation with, but that really became more of a problem in Voyager than in the movie. This movie = LOVE.
Ridiculously Fanatic: str kirk vs spock by nomadicwriternel_ani on November 16th, 2010 11:38 pm (UTC)
I just asked my sister and she voted for "The Inner Light." And Darmok! SO FABULOUS!! The reason why I like Best of Both Worlds over those is because everyone gets to do something, and I always love my Star Trek best in ensemble episodes.

Yes! No! I mean! I agree. The Inner Light is just...breathtaking. It's such a simple story, but that's why it's so good. But Best Of Both Worlds, like you say, it has the ensemble factor. It also has tension (SO SCARY OMG), action, drama, character moments, the list goes on.

HUGH :( :( And whatever happened to the disease of individualism sweeping through the Borg anyway? IDK!

It was kinda like the flu and they got vaccinated? I dunno, it is confusing.

PHLOX! OMG! <3 So so lovable. My Enterprise feelings are so torn, because I loved it, and then I hated it, and then I watched because I heard it was good again and and and...BUT PHLOX WAS ALWAYS GOOD.

THE EMH! Man, I remember when he fell in love with Seven, that was so sad. Actually, he had a lot of tragedy, didn't he? OH! OH! His holographic family! And they programmed his holographic life to have random things happen! And his...son? was dying and he chose to let it happen! Or! When he suspects that someone is tampering with his program, and it turns out it's Janeway, because they gave him amnesia due to his ethical program making him have a meltdown.

Voyager may or may not have been my fave Trek until the TNG bug bit me. >_> <_< (B'ELANNA! \o/ Though, oh my god, did they slaughter Tom/B'Elanna or what? Though, I suppose they didn't do Janeway/Chakotay any favors either...) FIRST CONTACT FTW!!!! Best. Trek. Movie. Ever. (Well, there were the whales...but that was good in a different way.) Drunk Troi, the fanboys, Data turning off his emotion chip when he got freaked out, Picard being Captain Ahab, "Borg. Sounds Swedish.", Picard calling Worf a coward and Worf not ripping his head off, THE EMH, basically EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE MOVIE IS PERFECT. I love it when Data has been taken captive, and you sorta feel safe, because Data is so matter of fact, and then they turn on his emotion chip, and you freak out along with Data. The Borg Queen makes absolutely zero sense, but I love her, because she's creepy and freaky and wanted to sex Data up and made him go darkside for 0.68 seconds.

Edited at 2010-11-16 11:39 pm (UTC)
Little Red: trek - naomi borg - coffee_nebulamylittleredgirl on November 17th, 2010 12:27 am (UTC)
It also has tension (SO SCARY OMG), action, drama, character moments, the list goes on.

SERIOUSLY, THE MUSIC IS SO INTENSE!! And then you have the character bits - Riker coming into his own ("Captain Picard wrote the book on this ship!") and Data and WOLF 359 and omg. Just everything. *flails*

It was kinda like the flu and they got vaccinated? I dunno, it is confusing.

Maybe like gangrene and they just chopped off the affected Borg before it could spread through the whole collective? Or maybe that's WHY they got a queen in the first place. They were organizationally restructured.

OH ENTERPRISE. Really, it is sooooo much better watching it now than it was at the time. At the time we were all "OH GOD, they're KILLING STAR TREK" and now that it's already done, we can say, "wow, those episodes were super bad, but I have a soft spot for these other ones, and aww, that bit was fun." And most of season 4 is truly enjoyable without qualifiers, so there's that. :)

OH GOD, the holographic family. WHAT WAS THAT. WHYYYYY. Killing off his daughter within the program was just so sad. I was so very angry with my TV. That episode with Janeway messing with the doctor's program is really good.

Voyager is sweet! I always loved it (except when I hated it - Equinox II, I'm looking at you). Did they slaughter Tom & B'Elanna? I thought their arc more or less made sense for them. They were two hotheads with major daddy issues who fell in love with each other, and by achieving personal stability and happiness, became incredibly boring. It worked for me, I guess! Janeway and Chakotay... oh, that. Man, I loved them, and it made me sad when their characters became kind of obnoxious in their own ways as time went on (Janeway, stop being crazy; Chakotay, try and pretend you're at all interested in what's going on around you). It's crazy when you think that they were totally at their happiest when they were the farthest from home, but there you have it!

For me, Deep Space Nine is probably my favorite Trek show, but TNG is just mythologically epic, you know? The characters are all these bold, almost archetypal forces for good, and they tackle these great morality parables, and man. SO WONDERFUL! I really love all the series for different reasons. Voyager has this warm happy snuggly family feeling about it, and is the easiest of all the shows to fic, which is a big selling point.

Drunk Troi, the fanboys, Data turning off his emotion chip when he got freaked out, Picard being Captain Ahab, "Borg. Sounds Swedish.", Picard calling Worf a coward and Worf not ripping his head off, THE EMH, basically EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE MOVIE IS PERFECT.

OH GOD YES YES ALLA THIS OMG. Picard as Ahab! How could I not have mentioned that??? That is SO GREAT. (One of my favorite moments at the end of DS9 is when Quark yells, in response to the progressive changes on Ferenginar "THE LINE HAS TO BE DRAWN HERE! THIS FAR, AND NO FURTHER!" and I collapsed in a fit of giggles because it was totally Quark doing Picard doing Ahab.) Now I really want to watch First Contact. Even the opening sequence gives me chills because the music is so great! And POOR DATA!! They used the emotion chip to such good effect in that movie (where it was kind of a gimmick in Generations). And the Borg Queen was just so creepy and seductive and so fabulous, that actress gets an A+.

.68 seconds or PRACTICALLY AN ETERNITY! Love.

And the Borg Queen's interactions with Picard... ooooomg. I seriously want a Borg marathon RIGHT NOW. (I'm babbling now, but that made me think about the first Borg episode where Q flings them into system J25 or whatever and they meet the Borg, and how Janeway later bitches Q out for it when daaang, the Federation would have been so screwed if Q hadn't done that and we were caught unawares.)
Ridiculously Fanaticnel_ani on November 17th, 2010 10:51 am (UTC)
Sorry, had to sleep and stuff
And then you have the character bits - Riker coming into his own ("Captain Picard wrote the book on this ship!") and Data and WOLF 359 and omg. Just everything. *flails*

YES, RIKER! I guess that was the one thing in TNG that never made sense, and that they actually pointed out on their own: Riker should have been captain of his own ship. But he loves Picard and Enterprise too much!

Or maybe that's WHY they got a queen in the first place. They were organizationally restructured.

Dude, what a cool thought! What if the Queen came into existence *because* of their individuality virus?

My major problem with Enterprise is Archer. I have such a hard time liking him as a character, which is a problem, as he's there ALL THE TIME. The irony being that I tuned in because of Scott Bakula, because I loved him in Quantum Leap and Mr and Mrs Smith. Also, Mayweather, who makes Harry Kim look practically charismatic (sorry, Harry, just telling it like it is). Though, Mayweather was 150% better without a shirt on. Had he been constantly shirtless, I would have liked him better. ;)

Also, while I prefered Trip/T'Pol (<3), I liked Archer better when they were setting him up with T'Pol in S1. I think SB does better with romance stuff than command stuff. And then there's the show finale, which I still don't know what to do with...

OH GOD, the holographic family. WHAT WAS THAT. WHYYYYY. Killing off his daughter within the program was just so sad. I was so very angry with my TV.

It was dramatic and stuff, but it really made no sense. Like you'd let your daughter die if you had a choice?

Voyager was my very first online fandom. *draws hearts around it* I still have a couple of crap stories floating around some archives somewhere.

They were two hotheads with major daddy issues who fell in love with each other, and by achieving personal stability and happiness, became incredibly boring. It worked for me, I guess!

Haha! But, see, you can have personal stability and happiness without becoming boring! Not a lot of shows pull it off, but some do (SCARECROW AND MRS KING).

It's crazy when you think that they were totally at their happiest when they were the farthest from home, but there you have it!

They were! Question: did anyone ever write an AU where it was the Maquis ship that made it and Janeway had to settle for being first officer? I WOULD READ THAT.

I have actually never properly watched DS9. I remember seeing quite a bit of it when I was a kid, but didn't get a lot of it, and suzvoy had me watch a bunch of eps she thought was vital.

TNG is just mythologically epic, you know? The characters are all these bold, almost archetypal forces for good, and they tackle these great morality parables, and man. SO WONDERFUL!

YES! EXACTLY! They're like "this is what the universe should be like" and then they go and try to make it happen. It really is my feel-good show.

Now I really want to watch First Contact. Even the opening sequence gives me chills because the music is so great!

HEEEEE! Have you watched it with the commentary? Jonathan Frakes is really interesting to listen to, a lot of fun trivia about the cast.

.68 seconds or PRACTICALLY AN ETERNITY! Love.

I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE WATCHED THAT PARTICULAR SCENE 100 TIMES MORE THAN THE REST OF THE MOVIE. \O/

I'm babbling now, but that made me think about the first Borg episode where Q flings them into system J25 or whatever and they meet the Borg, and how Janeway later bitches Q out for it when daaang, the Federation would have been so screwed if Q hadn't done that and we were caught unawares.

Ooooooooooooooooh. Dude, I'd forgotten about that. On that subject, Q: awesome or awesomest? (My fave ep is probably when he's made human as punishment for something or another and in the end when he's restored, he makes Data laugh ♥)
A.j.: gleeaj on November 16th, 2010 02:13 pm (UTC)
SHATTERED. OMG, WE WATCHED THAAAAT.
Little Red: trek - jc float on - daygloparkermylittleredgirl on November 16th, 2010 04:27 pm (UTC)
I WILL ALWAYS WATCH THAT!!! Everybody is so happy and dorky and SESKA and omg, love.
A.j.: gleeaj on November 16th, 2010 05:08 pm (UTC)
THE SMIRKING! AND NAOMI! OMG. THAT SHOOOOOOOOOOOW!

(Also, S1Janeway, totally wanted to hit that. SO HARD.)
Little Red: trek - jc float on - daygloparkermylittleredgirl on November 16th, 2010 08:56 pm (UTC)
YES!! S1 pre-crazy Janeway would so have been all over that.
Roxy: Arthur laughingchichiri on November 18th, 2010 01:54 pm (UTC)
I still have yet to watch Deep Space nine. The Next Generation will always be number one for me :D