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06 March 2007 @ 01:19 pm
Are you responsible for this chocolate dalek instruction manual? It's fantabulously yummy-looking.

In other news, I've been staring at my default Janeway/Chakotay icon for, liek, five minutes instead of working. It was made by daygloparker a long time ago and is, aside from being all Trendy And Mod With Lyrics, kind of depressing. Hrm. Now I will be thinking about this pairing all day.
 
 
am: werk
feel: thoughtfulthoughtful
hear: Keith Jarrett -- "Someone to Watch Over Me"
 
 
 
NEXT TIME I'M IN CHURCH, PLEASE NO PHOTOS: bsg: pythiaesquedaygloparker on March 6th, 2007 09:49 pm (UTC)
BUT THAT ICON KIND OF MAKES ME HAPPY?
Little Red: trek - jc float on - daygloparkermylittleredgirl on March 6th, 2007 11:16 pm (UTC)
I KNOW! Because it is a moment of SUCH HAPPY and it just seems kinda depressing because you are all "oh! you are SO HAPPY here and have NO IDEA that it is all downhill from here into madness and wailing and gnashing of teeth!"

THE HAPPY IS MAKING ME SAD. I CANNOT EXPLAIN IT.

I do rilly like it tho.
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MV: DW - expumpkinatemrv3000 on March 6th, 2007 10:22 pm (UTC)
Are you responsible for this chocolate dalek instruction manual?

HEEE!
A.j.: A.j.aj on March 6th, 2007 10:58 pm (UTC)
Is it wrong that I've been rereading TONS of Janeway/Chakotay fic?
Little Red: trek - jc float on - daygloparkermylittleredgirl on March 6th, 2007 11:19 pm (UTC)
omg no it is not wrong because I HAVE TOO.

I really want to write some too! But am having trouble because the last time I wrote it I was kinda 13, so now everything sounds like I'm 13, and... well... a lot of the fanfic I have been reading also kinda sounds like the entire fandom was 13, and that's not helping. Y'know? But Voyager episodes are almost like fanfic in themselves with all the squeee, so s'all good.
A.j.: shipaj on March 6th, 2007 11:51 pm (UTC)
EXCELLENT! Also, sorry for the Harry/Janeway thing. It's only because the Man set the whole show on fire for me!

You're kind of right about the whole show being a bit fanfic. I mean, realistically a lot of the mannerisms and decisions were very... not cynical or realistic. Which, while on the one hand quite optimistic and sweet, can be kind of... frustrating when you're coming at the show as someone who's over the age of 14. At least to write it.

Because really? Janeway and Chakotay kind of FAIL at an adult relationship. Yeah, she kind of blew him off a lot, but he ever confronted the issue head on and ASKED. He coached shit in tentative whatever where she's totally someone you need to drag into a room and shout at.

Sigh.
Little Redmylittleredgirl on March 7th, 2007 01:12 am (UTC)
However, Chakotay doesn't really seem unhappy with the arrangement.

On my commute in this morning I was thinking about how fanfic writers tend to slap their own feelings of crazed betrayal and frustration and stuff onto characters who are otherwise... kind of okay with things. In Atlantis I notice it especially, maybe because 'ship fandom TOOK OFF so early on and we were all "OMG FLAIL!" while the characters were still "your last name is Garelli?" Like, seriously, Lizzie is not crying into her corn flakes because Shep likes to cop off with alien women. And I don't think there's a lot of crying and corn flakes in Chakotay's world, either, because I don't think he'd continue to play the Peaceful Warrior Waiting Game if he wasn't okay with it. Y'know? I mean, man left a Starfleet career and started killing people. He does have a spine in there somewhere.

I'm sorry, I still never want to see Harry/Janeway as sexual IN THE LEAST, but I'm kind of on board for the two of them and a teen-angst Naomi Wildman bonding about how they're the three people who will just never get over it... and yet, I'd really rather think happy thoughts and create a happy AU where Chakotay locked Janeway up for insanity midway through the series and then they are all HAPPY AND RECOVER at the end! Yes. And Naomi does an internship on the Enterprise.
A.j.: connectaj on March 7th, 2007 01:42 am (UTC)
I know. Well, until the last season, but everyone kind of went around the bend except like.. the Doctor, B'Ellana, and Tom. It was weird. Seriously, though. Everyone else too the crazy drugs.

But the thing that cracks me up? A lot of our fic still kind of stands up. Mostly, I think, because the characters we were writing were kind of... eeeeh about Twu Wuv exactly. I mean, we kept having them get drunk, have sex, and then go have sex with other people. We wrote them having sex contests in the mess hall. Well, I did. I think that was a much more sane and entertaining situation.

But I agree. Chakotay seemed relatively okay with the situation for a long, long time. I still have to say that Scorpion,/i> part 1 is the most.. omg episode for those two. <3 <3 <3 Damn Kathy and her interest in the crazy pills!

I'm okay with that! I totally know that it's the wackiest of WACKY otp's. I think i've only found like.. ONE story ever. And considering how slutty everyone likes to make ST casts? That's pretty impressively small. And really? At heart? That story was J/C. I AM SO LAME.

Can I live in your Happy AU where the Doctor started dosing Katie on SRI's? Because that would be awesome.
Little Red: trek - naomi wildman - jen717mylittleredgirl on March 7th, 2007 02:23 am (UTC)
They totally BROKE UP in Scorpion I, though. I LOVE EET LIEK WHOA though, because it shows how rad those two really are when they are stubborn as all get out. <3 <3 <3 indeed.

But Kathy has kind of stopped spiralling into madness for the time being... we're watching S4, and it's like everything's okay again for a little bit, because she stopped smoking the crazy, and she and Chakotay seem to be dating again, and Sister and I find ourselves even really respecting her command decisions. HRM.

Speaking of wacky pairings? I am so high on Tuvok/Seven right now like you would not believe (but really? as a friendship pairing. I mentioned this already. But I am just as obsessed with their friendship as I am with hot sexx0rz of other pairings. Really!)

Okay, my Voyager fics? I actually wrote when I was 13, not just metaphorically 13, so, er, there were no orgies in the mess hall. Though there was an alien prom once, I think. Oh! Oh! And the one story that I now TOTALLY want to re-read now that I remembered it was this big crazeh novel thing about Harry Kim, and his alien girlfriend-of-the-week turns out to be this brainwashed alien government assassin who totally KILLS JANEWAY (she gets better), and then the ev0l government STEALS VOYAGER, and then they all have to join this crazy alien rebellion and, basically, there's an alien coup with some guerilla warfare and Harry gets laid. And there's an alien prom and there's some mocking of B'Elanna for hating wearing dresses, or something, because B'Elanna apparently = my sister.

It disturbs me that this fic may have the most complex and complete plot of anything I've ever written. Now I MUST find it on ze old floppy discs and read it! *excited*

I ignore wholeheartedly how slutty ST crews are theoretically. IGNORE, IGNORE. Especially TNG, because they? Are as childhood gods.
A.j.: gleeaj on March 7th, 2007 02:39 am (UTC)
THEY TOTALLY DID. And in a loud, cranky way. And it makes me SAD because they were so ADORABLE and CUDDLY at the beginning! Sigh. SIGH.

And yeah, she found some sanity in season 4. And parts of 5. Smaller bits of 6. 7 though? Whooo... I'm just writing off the last seven/8 episodes and being done with it. And I was always sad because it wasn't that Kathy was CONSISTENTLY crazy. It was like.. she was good, she was great, she rocked... she went batshit. And that was ALL on the writers who couldn't figure out who they wanted Kathy to be. And didn't want to deal with the reality of what such a stressful situation would do to one person. Just. MAN.

AND HARRY! GETS LAID! OMG! YAY, HARRY! Even if she's evil! *cuddles him*

(I still ship Bev/Jean-Luc for they were the AWESOME.)
Little Red: trek - janeway heaven earth - kabutarmylittleredgirl on March 7th, 2007 07:24 am (UTC)
YES!! I totally kinda forget the beginning now because I have a memory like a screen door but it's giving me a reason to want to buy the DVDs next time I have money after I pay off my surgery!

Gira and I totally just watched "Hunters" -- where Kathy gets her Dear John letter and has a weird semi-hopeful conversation with Chakotay at the end -- and were all "whu? OH MY GOD THIS IS WHERE SHE LOSES IT FOR GOOD." And we were so distraught that we watched the last scene stopping every few seconds to go "yep, still dating" just to reassure ourselves.

Our new Happy Voyager Project plan is to freeze-frame through all scenes of wtfangst and rationalize right over them until they are FINE and everything is HAPPY.

I think they never wanted to have to deal with how fucked up and stressful this situation would be. I mean, SISKO went kinda bonkers there and he had all of Starfleet to back him up (well, sorta, a lot of it was still on his shoulders, but that's why he didn't go COMPLETELY bonkers). And Sisko is... THE SISKO! Janeway is just a human being! So reality of the situation forced them to occasionally make her crazy as all get-out... but you know they WANTED this show to be a happy old-trek-ish kind of space romp.

I TOTALLY still 'ship Bev/Jean-Luc and Riker/Troi and awesome eeee yay. However, it's the random pairing up and kinky sex in 10-Forward I kind of can't get on board for.

And HARRY! Right, right, must find that fanfic for myself now. And I don't know that Harry's girlfriend is evil so much as brainwashed and confused? I don't really remember, but I'm pretty sure she ended up being one of the good guys.
A.j.: geekyaj on March 7th, 2007 02:15 am (UTC)
Also. CHAKOTAY IS THE BIGGEST GOOBER EVER.

EVER.
Little Red: trek - jc float on - daygloparkermylittleredgirl on March 7th, 2007 02:28 am (UTC)
EVER.

The last season was totally horrifying, except for that one episode that Seven of Nine, liek, holograms the entire crew, and I love that, and am all "OMG YOU AND BARCLAY FOR THE WIN!" And then it got really freaky and weird when it was brought into the Real TV World, but whatev, because I was a freshman at college and so it's all kind of unreal to me and I can pretend it didn't happen.

My happy!verse is pretty rad, innit? Wasn't it you and I who originally thought of the plan to lock Janeway up for the crazy and make Chakotay captain, and how that was the only way Janeway could actually end up happy? It is a good plan. LET US GO WITH IT. The Happy Voyager Projects is my new baby, yes. All the AUs in which everyone is pleased and happy! Wheeee.

I really want to go home and write millions of ficlets, but alas, I am apparently signed up as a sounding board tonight for a brand-new Mormon Missionary girl to teach a Real Live Bible Lesson to.
A.j.: A.j.aj on March 7th, 2007 02:45 am (UTC)
I vaguely remember that... and how she got to come out and play occasionally, but mostly she was making friends and becoming the scourge of Neelix's life. Because there's only so much you can ramp down a really competent woman. Didn't she end up in engineering a lot too?

GreaseMonkey!Katie was always my favorite. Some of my most happy scenes were ones where she and B'Ela were totally geekspeaking. And it amused me all the more because the guys would kind of just stare at them with a "...?" expression. Except Harry. Because Harry was everyone's bitch, and thusly learned every system and department ever.

And seriously, when did you become Mormon?
Little Redmylittleredgirl on March 7th, 2007 07:27 am (UTC)
I don't really remember the whole story either! It was probably 2 am and we were punchy as all getout. But it would be very healthy and good for her to trade off being Captain with other people and go tool around in a jeffries tube recalibrating power relays for DAYS. It would be a very good thing.

Harry really DOES know everything!!! Gira and I were just watching an episode where, literally, Harry can control every single department from his station in one scene where Janeway just keeps barking orders at him. Love it.

I seriously am not Mormon. Like, seriously. But they are SO CUTE these girls on their Mormon pilgrimages and so we invite them over and make them tea and they know we're crazy eastern-religion girls, but they really like us anyway. We talk a lot about philosophy and religion -- we don't get to do that much otherwise -- and they teach us things about Jesus which yay, we didn't know!, and we pepper them with Bible questions and also just try to give them a break a bit from being on a crazy Mormon pilgrimage. Long story short: Not Mormon. Have Mormon friends. Am fascinated by all aspects of God. W00t.
angelqueen04: Hugsangelqueen04 on March 6th, 2007 11:38 pm (UTC)
Omg, I need to go surfing for J/C icons because that was probably the first ship I sailed, and I sailed it to the bitter, weepy end. *sob*

Those two were so pretty together and look what happened...

Great, now I'm going to be depressed for the rest of the day. *facepalm*
Little Redmylittleredgirl on March 7th, 2007 07:29 am (UTC)
Yeah, okay, so that is almost the cutest icon ever and then it is WHOLLY WRONG! Up until the death it reminds me muchly of me and my sister, who pounce on each other and do the kitty-nuzzling thing with our heads and flail our arms like that. BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY DIE. Okay.

And Janeway and Chakotay are just super cute! Love eet. So angsty, but I'm on a big Happy Voyager Project kick where we just rewrite things and PRETEND THAT ALL IS OKAY. Yes. (We just decided that a few hours ago.)
you're thinking of mr wizard: nanobots!  oct 22cleverocity on March 7th, 2007 01:06 am (UTC)
Heee! I wish. I think I looked at that for "research" at Monkey Butler's birthday though. Ours looked like it had fallen over onto the table six times. Mostly because it did.
Little Redmylittleredgirl on March 7th, 2007 07:29 am (UTC)
Heeee! That's totally why I thought you made it. :)