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29 November 2007 @ 09:06 am
Somewhere between "oh." and "fuuuuuuuuck."  
We had our exit strategy meeting with the Vice President of our division yesterday. It was sort of like getting hit in the face with a shovel.

30 days is the absolute best I can hope for, though after talking to the RSM it might turn back into two weeks' notice from yesterday. And, of course, no bonus or severance or anything.

The agents get to stay on until at least February and will get closeout bonuses since they are more specialler than me. The VP bought us happy hour drinks (I swear, I'm never looking at happy hour the same way again) and I sort of threw a little fit about how somebody better be giving me a goddamned Starbucks card. I think I also requested a balloon.

So I've been looking at jobs, and most of the available ones (December = not the best time for this, omg!) will actually pay me less than I'd get on unemployment, so here's a question: Are there crazy hidden reasons for not filing for unemployment? Will I be blackballed from working for the government in the future or something? Do I have to pay it all back someday? PLEASE ADVISE. OVER.


The VP said that he really thinks I should go to law school next. (I know... ??) My coworker L is still insistent that I should totally do freelance copy writing, and she used to be a freelance graphic designer and so has all sorts of tips and strategeries and stuff to help. That sounds like a whole lot of fun. It would be like being a starving artist, but a corporate starving artist! I could do that, build a resale real estate business, sell crafty things online, pose for artists, write trashy romance novels and wash neighbors' cars kids & dogs and NOT STARVE, WOO! *hangs head* (I like the idea of being able to write off the new computer I need...)

Your ideeers, please!
feel: scaredscared
Tammy - never give up, never surrender: Msc - Spot Run - besydbesyd on November 29th, 2007 05:48 pm (UTC)
Contact the unemployment office ASAP and file just as soon as you can. At least here in Texas it takes two weeks for it to kick in. And they will give you many good leads ... and maybe even some cross training. "Unemployment" is good.

Once when the guy I was previously married to was on unemployment, they got him a gig as an extra on Walker, Texas Ranger. Really!

Am thinking constant good thoughts for a cool job to come along.

So, what kind of law school is out that way? Maybe you could get a good scholarship and/or grant.
Little Red: peanuts - doomed!mylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 07:08 pm (UTC)
I think I'd have to finish my undergrad first, omg...

I think I need to wait and file for unemployment after the first of the year, because the online unemployment calculator says I will get more each week if I file after the first. More is good!

Walker, Texas Ranger. LOLOLOL!!!

... dammit. *sigh* This is all rather annoying. I'm going to lunch with my RSM today, who apparently gets to make The Final Decisions about me, so hopefully things will not get worse!
(no subject) - in_parentheses on November 29th, 2007 07:15 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - mylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 10:02 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Perri: bad dayneonhummingbird on November 29th, 2007 05:48 pm (UTC)
< sympathy > Oh, that just sucks. i did that a few years ago and it was the pits. I'm sorry.

You don't have to pay unemployment back, no; you've paid other people's unemployment with your taxes, now other people will pay yours. It's a whole big circle of life thing. :P

Depending on your state, there may be catches concerning how often you have to check in, how many jobs you have to apply for per week (regardless of whether you can actually do said jobs, sadly), and how much you can earn freelance or tempting before they won't give you unemployment money that week (or anymore). Your local unemployment office should be able to walk you through the paperwork and the hoops. Check your city or state's web site and it will probably steer you to the closest office.
Little Red: peanuts - hugmylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 10:03 pm (UTC)
Yeah, you have to show that you're applying for jobs weekly, and have to basically apply for unemployment every week. But still, it's really nice to know it's there, and if I don't have another job by January, I'm totally going to file for it.

miera_cmiera_c on November 29th, 2007 05:52 pm (UTC)
Other than the personal shame of it (OK that's my experience talking; I'm still appalled at myself that I had to go on unemployment even though I was trying very hard to find work) there's no hidden price for going on unemployment. You don't get blackballed or anything and it doesn't wreck your credit rating.

And in your situation, losing a job just before Christmas in an industry that's falling apart, it's absolutely sensible to apply for it.
Little Red: peanuts - afraid of thatmylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 07:10 pm (UTC)
I'm still appalled at myself that I had to go on unemployment even though I was trying very hard to find work

WOE. That does not make me feel any better! :(

I don't think I'd have any moral issues about unemployment. I mean, I pay into it whenever I'm working, and it's not like I'm filing illegally, sooo...? (Income taxes are extra super high in Oregon, so that might be adding to my sense of entitlement.)
(no subject) - miera_c on November 29th, 2007 09:28 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - mylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 10:07 pm (UTC) (Expand)
YB: crapjusthere1971 on November 29th, 2007 05:54 pm (UTC)
First ((hugs)). Second, there is no penalty for collecting unemployment. You can collect whenever you are laid off. You should do a search for your state unemployment. Each state is different. You don't have to pay it back, but have to pay taxes on it.
As for the happy hour - he should take you guys out every night. That just plain blows HARD. I just know you will land on your feet. I like the idea of copy writer.
Little Red: peanuts - novel going badlymylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 10:08 pm (UTC)
Thank you for the infos!!!

I like the idea of copy writer, too. I'm looking now at jobs that will allow me to boost that skill/portfolio even if they're office jobbyjobs.
Clydesuzvoy on November 29th, 2007 06:09 pm (UTC)
Little Red: peanuts - doomed!mylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 10:09 pm (UTC)
Sallyslm76 on November 29th, 2007 06:20 pm (UTC)
Firstly... crap! What happened to staying on until the end of the year? Mind you, I suppose it will be mid-Dec.

I got unemployment when I was laid off in July 2004. And no, I didn't have to pay it back. In Arizona, where I was when it happened, I did have to have proof of looking for employment but it's easy enough to keep copies of letters sent. And if you go to a job center you can sign in which is also proof.

December is a notoriously bad time to look for work. I know we're not even planning on looking for temporary production workers until the new year.

Best wishes for everything. I hope you're able to find something else soon.
Little Red: peanuts - afraid of thatmylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 10:12 pm (UTC)
They keep saying "the end of the year" and "two weeks" like it's the same thing. I have no CLUE when my last day will be. They're actually taking away previous answers whenever anyone asks a question. ARGH ARGH ARGH.

Yeah, December is not so fun for job-hunting. And I'm not really looking forward to groveling individually to each of my friends and family about how their xmas gifts are on layaway. *headdesk* However, it'll be fine!
(no subject) - slm76 on November 29th, 2007 11:13 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Samin_parentheses on November 29th, 2007 06:39 pm (UTC)
Oh, shitlords. I am so sorry. I think everyone else has pretty thoroughly answered your question about unemployment, so I won't add to that. But I will add my vote that freelance copyediting sounds good! Also sign up with temp agencies. You are sharp and competent, which will make them looooove you and give you the "plum" (read: $10/hr. or more) assignments.

- Sell baby rats! (as pets, I mean, not for...other stuff)
- Become a realtor for rental properties, because all these people who can't afford their homes anymore need somewhere to live. ...That was depressing. But it might be true.
- Troll the job listings at institutions of higher ed. in your area. Universities have an endless need for intelligent admin-types, and your real estate experience is awesome and totally applicable. This, in my experience, is the ideal not-career job: good hours, good benefits, great vacation time, decent pay, and sometimes you can even take courses for free.
Little Red: peanuts - *smak*mylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 10:22 pm (UTC)
Luckily, I'm in a big city that has lots of temp agencies... there are some that specialize in legal and high-end temp/perm positions, so I'm going to whore myself out to them probably today. I'd rather try that first, since I'm going to ask for a salaried position and many of the big companies around here only hire through employment agencies.

Your brainstorming is so awesome! :)

- Baby raaaaats!!! Heeeee. I wonder if we'd be able to sell them, or if we'd end up with exponential rats in our home. Eep!
- Yoiks... becoming a rental realtor / property manager sounds like actually the least fun thing in the universe to do. I do have the possibility for a job in that field, but it would be about $7,000 a year less in a salary range that can't really afford that. :( Also, property management, which is like perpetually waxing your head. *is a choosy beggar*
- Oooooh! Universities! Good idea! I like smart people.
This isn't anything.: sign in pleaseanxietygrrl on November 29th, 2007 06:42 pm (UTC)

FDR sez: I pushed through the New Deal to save the country from communism! Not taking advantage of the social safety net would be UNAMERICAN!

(I just realized that someone who doesn't know me might read this as sarcastic, when really it's just my whimsical way of saying unemployment insurance is coolsville, man. Also, maybe you could have a side business knitting fashionable sweater vests for rats.)

Edited at 2007-11-29 10:21 pm (UTC)
Little Red: rats in frocks - semyazamylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 10:24 pm (UTC)

FDR in my journal totally made my day. You rock so hard!

(I totally understood what you meant.)

knitting fashionable sweater vests for rats.

OMG. That is the best idea ever. And then I could put them on my rats and take pictures and make a million dollars selling greeting cards of rats in vests.
(no subject) - ornithoptercat on November 30th, 2007 01:35 am (UTC) (Expand)
YBjusthere1971 on November 29th, 2007 06:42 pm (UTC)
I ditto ^ the idea. Look into Universities. Pay might not be the top level, but the benefits will make up for a lot of it, until you find something else (if you want).
YBjusthere1971 on November 29th, 2007 06:42 pm (UTC)
I ditto the idea above that :P
(no subject) - mylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 10:28 pm (UTC) (Expand)
lavidaessueno on November 29th, 2007 07:28 pm (UTC)
First off, this is why we have unemployment insurance, which is really what it is. Definitely look into applying now.

Second: if you have health insurance, ask what they're going to do about allowing you to hold on to your coverage. Then do whatever you can to maintain that coverage until you can get something that's equal to, if not better, than what you've got now.

Third: If health insurance coverage is important to you, and if you have pre-existing conditions that would make it difficult for you to qualify for an individual plan, think very seriously before becoming a full-time freelancer in any occupation until you've checked out Oregon's laws re: health insurance and group vs. individual plans.

Good luck. *frets*
Little Red: peanuts - linus in the windmylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 10:30 pm (UTC)
COBRA is about to become my new best friend. I am way more freaked out about health insurance than I am about anything else, since it's hard for me to get and hard to keep and just... *frets*

However, there is the Oregon Health Plan that says that you can buy (for lots of money, but still) health insurance from the state if you've been turned down from other major health insurance providers, which I have been. So there's that option.

It appears that money really can solve lots of things!

Hey babe, how did you become an editor? How did you learn the formatting and style and stuff? I keep saying I've got editing experience, but it's very amateur.
Havoc: lizzie/john desk sittinghavocthecat on November 29th, 2007 08:47 pm (UTC)
This is just so awful. And horrible. And many kinds of sucking. *hugs*
Little Red: peanuts - doomed!mylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 10:34 pm (UTC)
But somehow this will end up being A VERY GOOD THING in the end... right?

*sigh* It's really hard. I don't like hanging out here circling the drain. :(
(no subject) - havocthecat on November 29th, 2007 11:24 pm (UTC) (Expand)
georgie: jackgwen ooh!georgierae on November 29th, 2007 09:42 pm (UTC)
i like the 'write trashy romance novels' option!
Little Red: peanuts - think i'm in lovemylittleredgirl on November 29th, 2007 10:36 pm (UTC)
Me too!! :)

Perhaps I'll just write one really fast over the weekend to get me started. ;)

I also like the idea of doing freelancey things, because that means more time working while wearing feety pajamas. Mostly I'd just like to name my own business and design cool cards, though.
(no subject) - georgierae on November 30th, 2007 11:17 am (UTC) (Expand)
entertaining in a disturbing way: Jacoblyssie on November 30th, 2007 01:32 am (UTC)
I suck at the advice thing, so instead, I shall just cuddle and cling. *snuggles*
Foxke Lafrafoxke_lafra on November 30th, 2007 07:47 pm (UTC)
God, that sucks, I´m sorry about the crappy imminent unemployment.

Alas, I have no useful advice to add, since I don´t know anything about unemployment, but, you know, there´s never anything wrong with needing a hand to get back on your feet, especially when it wasn´t in any way your fault you got knocked off of them in the first place.

Also just wanted to sympathize with the job suckiness, since I´m in the middle of applying for jobs from Argentina for when I get back to the US (because I am going to be almost completely broke once I get back and past the whole holiday season, and so getting a job sooner rather than later will be ideal). Not having much luck yet.

Worse comes to worse, I´d be happy to add a room onto my cardboard box house for you and your pets :-)