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03 August 2012 @ 08:27 pm
Dad, we need to talk about the Tok'ra.  
So I've spent my evenings this week editing fanfic and putting together a Star Trek: TNG jigsaw puzzle while watching Tok'ra episodes of SG-1, and really, I think that scene just needs a little more nerd in it, don't you?

Well, until I figure out a way to do that, let me SHARE MY TOK'RA FEELINGS with you!

"Secrets" (a.k.a. "Daddy Issues, Part II") - "Daddy Issues, Part I" would be "Family," where Ry'ac gets captured by Apophis. I watched that one by accident thinking it was this episode. There are no Tok'ra in that episode.

There are no Tok'ra in this episode either, but there's Jacob! And man, Jacob pre-Selmak is totally a dick! Or, at least, Jacob pre-Selmak has zero clue how to relate to his daughter. I think it's sweet and awesome that he calls in all his markers to get Sam to the front of the line for NASA, but the man needs to communicate these things. Sam is a little unfair to say he's making it "all about him" though, when hey, your dad's dying wish is to see you achieve the dream you've worked for your whole life. But Jacob? Tell your kid you have terminal cancer, and then don't use it as a guilt-trip and storm out.

And bonus Special Agent Spender! He's kinda weaselly in Stargate also, as it turns out, and then dies a grisly death by auto "accident." If only we'd kept up with this kind of treatment of nosy civilians, we would've been spared that whole Prometheus mess, and Pete wouldn't have gotten security clearance, and basically a lot of annoyingness would have been avoided. That said, sorry, Investigative Reporter Spender. You seemed like a decent weasel.

"The Tok'ra" (a.k.a. "SPIES EVERYWHERE") - We meet the Tok'ra! They live in crystal caves, do their clothes shopping in the kitchen and bath section of Target, and have to evacuate every other day because the Goa'uld are hunting them. Their leader is Garshon, who is eternally #1 on the System Lord's most-wanted list and is one of Teal'c's personal heroes, and I have no idea why we never see her again.

Instead of "WHAT? JOLINAR HAS ARMIES?" the Tok'ra now fight the system lords by sneaking in and spying on them and sabotaging stuff. SG-1 is all "Hey! We have totally cool guns and things! Let's have an alliance!" but the Tok'ra only want them for their bodies. (SG-1? "OH HELL NO." Tok'ra: *UNFRIENDS*)

Also, the Goa'uld have snuck some spies into Tok'ra Central Station, so everybody's sabotaging everybody from within. Jack uncovers the spy (twice!). My favorite part about SG-1 is watching everybody be so awesome at their jobs.

Meanwhile, Sam is having the worst day ever. Her dad is dying on Earth, she's stuck on a planet surrounded by sand and terrycloth, and Jolinar's ghost is all rattling around in her feelings. I forgot that Martouf and Jolinar had only been together ("only") for 100 years - I assumed they'd been together for eternity. 100 years is plenty for Sam, though, who can't imagine ever loving anyone as much as Jolinar loved Martouf. (Oh, Sam. Though also true, since she's not a blended being.) Poor Martouf tries to get some Jolinar closure with Sam and then creeps her out by sizing her up as a host for Selmak. (Sam: "OH HELL NO." Martouf: "What did I say?")

Awesomest part of this episode? SELMAK! We meet her in a dying old-lady host named Saroosh, and both Selmak and Saroosh are snarky. Selmak = always awesome. It's clear she and Jacob will be BFFs forever and they cement this with a kiss and a blending. Selmak is kind of small and pinkish, rather than the crazy green Goa'uld symbiotes we see, and let's just pretend I fanwanked that already and move along. The sweetest thing ever is Selmak saying, "Goodbye, dear friend," to his former host. <3 I love the Tok'ra!

Martouf says that Jolinar's hosts have always been female, but Selmak doesn't seem too wigged out to be changing genders. The Goa'uld seem pretty committed to male hosts except for queens like Hathor and Amaunet, so I wonder how much gender-preference the symbiotes really have. I ask this because I like to imagine Selmak always as an old lady in Jacob's head poking him with a stick.

At the end, Jacob, Garshon and Martouf rush off to stop the other Tok'ra from unpacking so they can evacuate to yet another mystery planet and don't give SG-1 their phone number.

"Serpent's Song" - Apophis death count: 2!

The Tok'ra role in this is basically Martouf and some Tok'ra randoms coming by to warn SG-1 that possibly taking Apophis out of the clutches of another Goa'uld and keeping him as a prisoner of war is a crap idea. We learn the Tok'ra gossip network is really fast. The Tok'ra still won't give us their phone number, but we give them a GDO. This episode needs more Jacob.

"Seth" (a.k.a. "That One That Reminds Me Of My Childhood Except With Guns") - Selmak is already sick of Jacob's family problems and brings him (them?) back to Earth to mend fences with Sam's brother Mark. Selmak = always awesome. Mark's a dick (I hear it runs in the family?) and wouldn't return Sam's calls when their dad was dying. I'm starting to understand why Sam thought king dick Jonas Hanson was a solid relationship choice.

Before that awkward reunion happens, though, they all go on a Goa'uld hunt to a cult compound in Washington state. They come up with a really complicated plan involving brainwashing and un-brainwashing and zats. Teal'c and Jacob can't go in because Seth, the Goa'uld cult leader, will sniff out their symbiotes, but everyone forgets that Sam also smells like naquadah. Jacob gets badly hurt and Selmak gives Sam the bad/good news that Jolinar changed her enough that she can now use Goa'uld technology. Sam kills Seth with a hand device, which is pretty disturbing for everyone, but all's well that ends with Jacob meeting his grandkids.

Next up, "Jolinar's Memories"! Kate Heightmeyer, I think your services are needed in the SGC.
miera_c: penguin screammiera_c on August 4th, 2012 04:44 am (UTC)
Sam is having the worst day ever. Her dad is dying on Earth, she's stuck on a planet surrounded by sand and terrycloth

Little Redmylittleredgirl on August 4th, 2012 07:00 am (UTC)
They never have to go far for an oven mitt, I know that much.
entertaining in a disturbing way: Miss Marple has opinionslyssie on August 4th, 2012 05:53 am (UTC)
hdu, the Prometheus mess is amazingly ridiculous and stupid and over the top, and yet. Addicting (also, replicators).

Also, also, Jacob always calls Selmak 'he' (at least in 6 & 7), but I chalk that down to Jacob refusing to acclimate to the concept that Selmak is a wee old lady with a keen eye and good aim.

eta: in another life, Selmak was Miss Marple. (this makes sense in my head)

Edited at 2012-08-04 05:54 am (UTC)
Little Red: sg - daniel evil - littlekfrumylittleredgirl on August 4th, 2012 07:00 am (UTC)
Selmak was totally Miss Marple!!

Well if the symbiotes really are gender-neutral (which doesn't explain the Goa'uld mostly being guys with harems, but... whatever), then maybe they identify with their current host's gender. Except for Osiris/Sarah, but that was weird. But if Jolinar was always a woman, there's a chance Selmak always chose women until Jacob and it could take until season 6 before she comes around to accepting she's a dude now. ;) Either way, I kind of ship it. And Sarah/Osiris, because I've decided there should be much more of a give and take in that relationship than the usual Goa'uld/host prisoner in own body thing.

(Suddenly it occurs to me - please tell me there's a treasure trove of Tok'ra masturbation porn somewhere I just haven't found yet, because playing with a new mind/new body ... )
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Michelle K.jemster on August 4th, 2012 11:43 pm (UTC)
I hate Seth. Think it's the worst episode of SG-1 eva. The idea was great and I can totally see a System Lord doing that but I've always found the episode kinda creepy.

Um, I'm sorry..we were talking about the Tok'ra, right? ;-)

Edited at 2012-08-04 11:43 pm (UTC)
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Little Red: sg - my cultmylittleredgirl on August 5th, 2012 03:56 pm (UTC)
I love "The Other Guys"! Haha. I haaaaAAAaaated the other one with Felger - though now I can't even remember what the heck it was. The one where he was fantasizing about SG-1 a lot. But "The Other Guys" had Phlox from Enterprise cutting Felger's ego down so it wins a lot of points with me. I'm easy.

Edit: I usually really love "lower decks" kind of episodes where you get to see how silly our heroes must look from the point of view of the random background dudes, though.

Edited at 2012-08-05 03:57 pm (UTC)
Michelle K.jemster on August 5th, 2012 11:04 pm (UTC)
See, I'm with Red here.. love that episode. SO many great lines not to mention quite a few Star Trek references. The other episode you're thinking of is "Avenger 2.0"
Little Red: sg - my cultmylittleredgirl on August 5th, 2012 03:52 pm (UTC)
Aww, I like "Seth," but it does feel more like an X-Files episode than SG1 in some ways. But Jacob! As smartass General Carter! Cult episodes give me warm fuzzy feelings about my childhood (in a totally good, brainwashing-optional cult, but we all wore white and chanted things in unison and worshipped a guy and... well, look, there were no crazy weapons or aliens). Their plan to infiltrate Seth's compound was seven levels of stupid, but I forgive a lot for Jacob.

Tok'raaaaaa! I'm so obsessed.
Michelle K.jemster on August 5th, 2012 11:40 pm (UTC)
I watched it again and I think why I didn't like the episode was the writing just sucked. Also, it was too easy to find Seth and the actor who played him - that was the creepy part. He was just weird. Finally, Mark's reaction when dad and sister came calling. Yes, he was angry when he opened the door but OMG! Dad!Hug solves everything!

Edited at 2012-08-05 11:50 pm (UTC)
Valerie - Postmodern Pollyanna: laughwiliqueen on August 6th, 2012 05:17 pm (UTC)
Yay Tok'ra feelings! I still have SO MANY TOK'RA FEELINGS OMG.