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16 August 2013 @ 11:27 pm
Deconstructing Privilege is the New Black  
So I fell off the planet the other day while I was in the middle of responding to comments on my previous post. There was some kind of flu, or general random immune flare-up, or something. So! Misery, ineffective droogs and odd sleeping habits made for the perfect time to watch all of Orange is the New Black!

My feelings as I watched kind of went like this:

1. Shut up, Piper.

2. OMG NATASHA LYONNE FROM BUT I'M A CHEERLEADER!!!

3. Man, Jason Biggs will just always be a caricature of his own teenage acting roles, eh?

4. CAPTAIN REDWAY OMG.

5. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG COMPLEX INTERESTING WOMEN OF COLOR & UNDERPRIVILEGED WOMEN & TRANS & REAL PRISON PIPELINE ISSUES AND OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6. Nnnnnng Piper's White Privilege please be quiet.

7. Sophia's Family feeeeels.

8. DAYA'S MOM OMG. ALSO TAYSTEE. ALSO POUSSEY. ALSO EVERYBODY.

9. Every scene with Red & Nicky is PERFECTION OH GOD.

10. TAYSTEEEE :) :) :( :(

11. I can't cope with what happens with Trish like not even a little bit.

12. No no no NO NO NO LEAVE MORELLO ALONE OMG OMG OMG okay.

13. Shut up, Piper!

14. YOU TOO, LARRY.

15. THAT WHEELCHAIR GIRL... that'll do, Piper, you done good.

16. Okay somebody give Pennsatucky an Emmy or something because she is ridic.

Basically! I get that Piper (and Larry's) white/wealth/pretty/pass-for-straight privilege is critical to this story, but I would honestly like her so much more if she were a secondary character. I think I would love her as a secondary character instead of want her to just shut up. The focus being on her kind of makes every episode a Very Special Episode where Piper learns the true meaning of Christmas, you know?
 
 
 
Ravennoradannan on August 17th, 2013 04:18 am (UTC)
1) Lord, do I ever hear you on Piper's privilege. I really appreciate that the show calls her out on her shit. One of the creators gave an interview where she flatout referred to Piper as her "trojan horse" in order to tell stories about women of color. Depressing, but at least it worked?

2) Larry is THE WORST.

3) SO not thrilled with the fake-rape plot. Really don't think that the main (and only flat-out) plotline referring to sexual assault in prison needs to be a "women cry rape to get what they want" plotline, oh my fucking god.

4) Not happy with the 'romance' between the guard and the prisoner (DEAR DUDE: SHE CANNOT LEGALLY CONSENT. STOP IT), either.

5) Loved the show. Pretty much everyone who isn't Piper and Larry is awesome. Miss Claudette broke my heart.

6) And everyone else, really.

7) And people call out Piper on her shit! The "You're not a nice person" speech and the "Don't come running to me. Ever." speech were fantastic.

8) Season 2, please?

9) Miss you tons.
Little Red: sga - shep involved being memylittleredgirl on August 17th, 2013 06:38 pm (UTC)
1) Yeah, I heard that too. Aww, Piper. I think she's a great character, actually? She's just someone I would want to slap in real life, so I would like to spend less time with her.

2) I wanted to like Larry! But ugh. I love Piper's brother who lives in the woods, though. LOVE.

3) I don't think I really thought about the fake rape plot that way, because I was super ill and not thinking critically. Plus, basically every interaction anyone has with Pornstache is SO RAPEY that I didn't care how they took him out of commission.

4) Yeah... I thought it was adorable at first, but it got creepy as soon as it turned sexual.

5) MISS CLAUDETTE OMG I CRIED :(

6) Everyone!! I have so much love for bit characters, like Black Cindy and Pennsatucky's dumb lackey girl and thank bloody God they gave us that one girl CO so we have one person on this show with power who we can unequivocally root for.

7) YES!! I love that everyone on the show says what I'm thinking to Piper. I just wish she would extrapolate from all those encounters that maybe she should shut up and listen more.

8) !!!!!! I heard Alex will not be a starring character anymore :( but I assume the fact that they know that means season 2 is in the works??

9) I MISS YOUUUUUU. I feel dug in on the East Coast for a while more but o Portland I miss you and all the wonderful people in you. <3 Are you knitting anything? Do you have crafty news you can share so I can live vicariously? Did you see Trek in the Park and was it AMAZING?
Ravennoradannan on August 17th, 2013 07:30 pm (UTC)
3) I agree that Pornstache was so creepy and rapey that ew ew ew. But I really hate the whole "women lie about rape to get what they want!" trope with the heat of a thousand suns, and so to see the one actual sexual assault plotline be that was not pleasing.

5) ME TOO. OMG. SO MUCH.

7) Here's hoping. ;)

8) Yes, season 2 is in the works, though Alex will be an only occasional character (which is fine with me, really: I loved her Fuck Off speech to Piper, but I find the rest of the cast more interesting).

9) Yes! I am working on the tree bark sweater from one of your books (they say hi!) in purple for myself, and also the Gisela pattern from Coco Knits for my aunt, in olive green. I also volunteered at the Clark County Fair giving spinning demos, which was tons of fun. I still have not registered for a class at OFFF, so I fear I am too late, but I need to do that.

Trek in the Park will be next weekend, as this one I am trying to pickle everything (I have gone so native), and my parents are coming into town. And I have a date. (I will let you know how it goes...)

Miss you tons. Love your Trek University things. You rock.
*: ds9 [ezri]spockette on August 17th, 2013 11:56 am (UTC)
*glomps and clings* I love you, Little Red!

And I pretty much agree with every single thing you have said about this show. And that I could not possibly love Red more (except for when this made the rounds on tumblr).
Little Red: trek - janeway heaven & earthmylittleredgirl on August 17th, 2013 06:28 pm (UTC)
*GLOMPS*

That is an amazing tumblr thing. Captain Redway is amazing as all get-out. She is totally what Janeway would be in prison, for reals. AND, moar importantly, having her & Nicky have a mom / daughter relationship is like the convergence of ALL THE FANDOMS from when I was a teenager. My love of But I'm A Cheerleader is strong and trueeeee.
Sarah (aka Smish): {tv} [A2A] Gene/Alex Cell 2x06smishpixie on August 17th, 2013 06:10 pm (UTC)
Did you read my mind while I was watching it? Hmmmmmmmmmmm? ;)
Little Redmylittleredgirl on August 17th, 2013 06:12 pm (UTC)
I THINK SO! I've always wanted a show-watching buddy inside my brain!
Sarah (aka Smish): {actors} [Simone] BG *bg*smishpixie on August 17th, 2013 06:16 pm (UTC)
I wondered what that was... ;)
fyca: BtVS gayfyca on August 17th, 2013 11:07 pm (UTC)
Yes to all that, plus, Alex is so frickin hot it hurts sometimes! All these reports of her not returning for season 2 make me sad. I was looking forward to lots of Nicky and Alex hookups.

I didn't even know that was Janeway. I just thought she was also attractive (the hotness of the cast is really my absolute favorite thing, followed closely by the awesome backstories of the non-Piper characters) so I went to look her up and was rather shocked. I think she's actually hotter now than when she was on ST. That Russian accent isn't hurting either...
-a.frog/gorf.a-: pic#82777583froggoddess on August 19th, 2013 01:55 pm (UTC)
OMG I am kind of am sekritly in love with Pennsatuckey because she is AMAZING.