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06 January 2005 @ 01:36 am
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5 good things about today:

1. Geek gleee: Gleeeful spamming on topic of "Before I Sleep" with trishkit. And now about a rather spiffy if terribly obvious 'shippy AU possibility with besyd (because I got confused about Trish's 'ship tendencies and refrained... I need, like, a CHART of who 'ships what, yo.). Wheee!

2. Am loved lots by friends' list who think I am cool. YAY. And ROXY turned up out of freaking nowhere, omfg!

3. Found horribly bad fic (like, badfic TM) under the furniture that I wrote while mostly-asleep at some undefined point in the last few months, and continued it for my own amusement. No, you don't get to see it unless I get another screen name and post to ff.net where it belongs. But there was other fic found under the furniture that is slightly less bad, so more gleee!

4. melyanna wrote me fic blamed fic on me!! And it has chess! And Sheppard/Weir! And I won't spoil it, but it's lovely! :) Knight-Errant.

5. Watched a sweet Czech short film called "Still Life With Animated Dogs" with my parents. My dad gets all wibbly about Czech things, it's quite cute. Then I asked him what Zelenka's first name should be, since an lj-user with a name I am TOTALLY unable to spell but beings with M said something about it this morning, and he rattled off a whole lot of popular Czech names, and I like Milos the best :-D AND SO IT IS.

3 things I did well:

1. Stayed relatively calm in face of deadline. No tears or anything. Not even dramatic drug-requiring asthma attacks. W00t!

2. Had long business meeting with father boss, yay!

3. Dealt with insurance peoples over the phone.
 
 
feel: satisfiedsatisfied
hear: I am picking up country radio in my head. *fears implantz*
 
 
 
Tammy - never give up, never surrender: SG1 - Sam Kidding - besydbesyd on January 6th, 2005 02:11 pm (UTC)
[fears aliens that could get past Little Red Defense System and do implantz]
Little Red: sg - linguists - maching_monkeymylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 05:02 pm (UTC)
Heeeeeee!! *willfully corrupts Tammy's grammar*

Although you have WILLFULLY CORRUPTED ME to occasionally use the term "JoBeth", though only with you, but still, EVIL!
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Little Red: sga - wet!john/lizzie - shewaselectricmylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 05:07 pm (UTC)
I'm a complete 'shipper slut. Expecially on Atlantis - the characters are all like Lego - they fit together in so many combinations.

*DIES OF LAUGH* Yes. And THEY are all 'shipper sluts, too. Yay!! Well, in fanon. And off-screen.

I discovered yesterday that I am *such* a crazed John/Elizabeth 'shipper h0r, that I am actually not that freaked out about other pairings. I mean... I like Simon, and Elizabeth/Simon is sweet. I'm warming up to the possibility of John/Teyla, because they have cute chemistry now and I love them as friends. I can't quite do the McKay/Weir thing yet, but, whatever, I'm sure it'll come and I like it in some ways. John/Elizabeth is my ridiculous hyperobsessive otp :-D

I think maybe the lack-of-threat is because NONE of this is canon or on-screen as romantic at all. So. Yay. They should all just stay very close friends for a long time and let us play. YAY!
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I'm not very interestingastropoet on January 6th, 2005 08:28 pm (UTC)
I think that Teyla could blow McKay's mind (among other things).


Oh I so agree! I think there is something really interesting that could be explored there. Teyla would be just the person to calm McKay's histronics.

Weir/McKay, I see it as being unrequited on the part of Rodney, but Weir seeing him as being a wee-brotherly thing.

But I love Shep/Weir, it is such a hot little pairing, but it should be allowed to develop really slowly, if at all, because if they leave it open we can just play for so much longer. And it's so much fun!
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Little Red: sga - canadian man - elly427mylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 10:00 pm (UTC)
I'm just having trouble imagining why Teyla would go for him...

I'm having that trouble for *most* pairings involving Teyla. It does work with Sheppard, but, you know, I'm trying to rule that one out ;) . I think that she and Ford could be adorable together eventually, but he'll have to grow up a lot more first. And since we know this show will horribly age him and beat the youthful optimism out of him eventually, yay!

I think that most of Rodney's crushes are doomed to be unrequited. That's okay, though. He needs some suffering so that he will truly appreciate whoever he does end up with.

Awww! I agree with this whole paragraph. And I think that Elizabeth will probably be the one to hold his hand through whatever relationship he does get into, because, BWA! Girl GERMZ! Help meeeeeee! And she will send Sheppard out of the room and be a nice life coach.

I totally agree that Shep/Weir should be allowed to develop slowly!!! They are meant to be together eventually, but I think that it will be a much more exciting road if it is travelled upon sloooowly.

*squeee*

Except in fanfic, of course.
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Little Red: sga - teyla sun - shewaselectricmylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 10:25 pm (UTC)
Imagine Teyla learning about the concept of casual sex from John or even Elizabeth! That could be an interesting discovery for her.

It would also be fun to imagine the Athosians as not even being officially monogamous. I mean, yay, people still pair off because that's kind of in our biology, but there is no real marriage, per se, and because the Wraith periodically kill off people, family groups allow for easy adoption of other children and all of that.

Or "sex" could be something considered very apart from the emotional commitment of any monogamous life-long bonds they may make. They could be all about the casual it's-cold-so-we-huddle have-sex-because-it-feels-good sort of thing, and there is none of the weird puritan shame thing -- even about only doing it in total privacy and all. Know what I mean?

SO many cool possibilities!

You should write fanfic! Yay!! :-D But you are a lovely, friendly leech, so we forgive you. And you encourage fanfic in others, which is a gift, yay.

Ford has a trip scheduled through the Stargate Wringer before that can happen. Yay! (poor little guy).

Is it bad that I'm kind of hoping for that? I mean, I would LOVE for him to remain happy and Jonas-y and unscarred. YAY. But really, if they don't torture the poor boy, they will forget about him ENTIRELY.

I think that there will be an awkward phase until Rodney figures out that friendship does not necessarily equal love (or bedroom benefits).

Oh. Man. That will SUCK. It'll be like high school chess team all over again. *sniffles for Rodney* Elizabeth might actually be mature enough to handle this in a gentle way, but there's also the really big chance that he will just find out that OMG, she is with SHEPPARD now of all people.
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Little Red: sga - s/w - mediemylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 10:54 pm (UTC)
It is quite exciting that we don't know very much about it yet. How about a matrilineal society, where lineage is traced through the mother and the maternal uncle plays a paternal role in the child's life?

That one doesn't so much work because Halling *did* call Jinto his son a few times. But that still leaves plenty of different family structures to explore.

I could see a non-monogamous society because of the Wraith culls. Good call!

And it's almost more fascinating to have to explain the sexual *repression* to Teyla rather than the other way around. And trying to explain marriage to her might horrify her about the state of our society. Since... of course, if you love someone, you should be with them. Why should that possibly need to be regulated by an outside force? Because of the children? You mean the children aren't automatically taken care of by everyone in the group!?!?? *Teyla is boggled*

Sadly, there just doesn't seem to be any room on television for angst-free well-adjusted characters.

Yep. This is why Mayweather has NOTHING TO DO. As soon as we discovered that his dad didn't really hate him and therefore he has no issues? He's is written off to television no-man's-land.

When you think about all of the trauma that the average tv character suffers over the course of a series it is quite remarkable that they aren't all dead and/or crazy.

And that's why, when series run for a long time, you start to get the feeling that things can never get better, and that some or all of these characters just will NEVER get over this stuff. And when it hits that point of no return, it gets really painful to watch. Because we love these people, and now they are all doomed for life.

Hurt/comfort is all fine and dandy, but what is wrong with having a little joy now and then?

EXACTLY!!! Star Trek handles this one better than some others, I think. I mean, Miles O'Brien has had SO MUCH HORRIBLE CRAP happen to him... but he has this loving wife and adorable children and gets to go play with toys in the holosuites and play darts and stuff, so we can see how things are not ALL angst and death. I think Atlantis could do that well, too, because it's set up with a large cast of secondary characters and a whole city to play around in... random snippets of day-in-the-life stuff is entertaining and awesome there. Like the football game!! Stuff like that might help give us the idea that these people can stay sane.

There should be more fluff in the world!

PROLIFERATE AND DEFEND!!!

I'm sure that Lizzie is accustomed to letting guys down gently

HEE! I'd also love to see her try that on Sheppard a few times (probably when she's going through the rounds of letting EVERYONE down gently, since half the expedition is crushing on her). But John doesn't give up, since he sees cracks in her armor. Yay. And then she falls for him amid all his pestering and dorkiness.

but I would love to see the fallout if Rodney found out the "wrong way". It would take him quite a while to accept it and he would be very pissed/extra snarky. Yay!

This fic MUST exist somewhere. It must. So perfect. Poor Rodney! And poor Elizabeth, too.
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Little Red: sga - teyla sun - shewaselectricmylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 09:55 pm (UTC)
But Teyla and Ford will be so cute!! :-D And if they bred, their kids would be, like, ASSASSIN material from the age of 5. Holy crap, they would have some deadly, skillful genes.

I kind of want Teyla to have a nice boyfriend who's local to the Pegasus galaxy, actually... is that so wrong? I don't want her to lose her Athosian-ness.
I'm not very interestingastropoet on January 6th, 2005 10:09 pm (UTC)
I kind of want Teyla to have a nice boyfriend who's local to the Pegasus galaxy, actually... is that so wrong? I don't want her to lose her Athosian-ness.

I agree, that would a great way to develop her character. I'm not a great fan of hers, but at least in Rising she had a degree of interest in her alieness and being head of her people. She's lost that now being the girly-tottie of Shep's team.
Little Red: sga - teyla sun - shewaselectricmylittleredgirl on January 7th, 2005 01:10 am (UTC)
I have such a crush on Teyla. It is so sad. She gets most cool in the second half of the season, and seems to have settled into her role a lot better, THANK YOU GOD. I hope she doesn't totally get lost in being an Atlantis sidekick... I'd love her to have to stand up for her people a bit more.
pellucid: Sheppard/Weir shippellucid on January 6th, 2005 09:51 pm (UTC)
He needs the perfect character to be paired with, and I don't think she (he?) has been invented yet.

I don't usually get into slash pairings, but Beckett/McKay has been growing increasingly appealing. But kind of in that cute, old married couple kind of way in not in the hot! kind of way... Though I also think Rodney has a total unrequited crush on Elizabeth that is rather adorable.

And if the show ever decides to give them personalities, I can see myself getting into Ford/Teyla, if for no other reason than omg!pretty!!!
Little Red: sga - teyla sun - shewaselectricmylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 09:56 pm (UTC)
Beckett/McKay does indeed horribly entertain me. Except I can see Beckett settling down with a sweet girl at some point along the way. Hrm. If not, then he and McKay can be old and bitter and The Odd Couple forever and ever, yay.

Though I also think Rodney has a total unrequited crush on Elizabeth that is rather adorable.

I'm starting to think that everyone does. She is the new Scully!!!

And if the show ever decides to give them personalities, I can see myself getting into Ford/Teyla, if for no other reason than omg!pretty!!!

They don't really need personalities to be pretty. And they both do kick incredible amounts of ass with their l33t fighting ski11z, so there is that...
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Little Red: sga - teyla sun - shewaselectricmylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 10:18 pm (UTC)
They are too pretty to be denied personalities.

I think I have a horrible crush on pretty much EVERYONE on that show.

I have decided that Ford is a slutty pyromaniac who bounces around like a puppy. Who can kill things. Teyla is a little more overtly dangerous and is much more mature.

PERFECT. Yes, exactly. And Ford loves his grandmother, which is adorable. I do kind of like him as a Good Boy. If we decide to Shepwhore Sheppard up even more, I could go with Ford being the sweet cute one who doesn't actually *want* to ravage the alien girls because, um, he's kind of got a crush on Teyla, and stuff. *ducks head a bit* You know.
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Little Red: sga - cute when sick - duckadorkmylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 10:43 pm (UTC)
HE WOULD SO SAY THAT!!! HA!
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Little Red: sga - shepwhore kirk - lizmylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 10:57 pm (UTC)
He would!

John and McKay, in unison: "Oh, brother."

Teyla: "I'm sure she was... most... grateful for your concern for her feelings."

Ford: "Um. Yeah."
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Little Red: sga - love of a hero - lizmylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 10:07 pm (UTC)
That said, I am not against the concept of seeing them with other partners, if only to generate some kick-ass jealousy.

I. LOVE. THAT. IDEA. *dies of joy* I looooooooved all of Mulder's girlfriend-y folk on The X-Files because NOTHING made my night more than Scully going totally green. YAY.

I am rather smitten with the idea of a more subtle jealousy. I still love playing around with the one where they're friends... who sleep together sometimes... but it isn't a RELATIONSHIP and they're not committed... and slowly they start to get really bothered by their other affairs, but can't quite put their fingers on WHY until someone (I nominate TEYLA.) beats them over the head with it.

I'm not so sure that I want them to sleep together though.

Yeah. They're getting more and more brother-and-sister in my head. VERY close and care about each other SO much, and really think the other is just the greatest ever and deserves only the best significant other... but... just... not them. And they might even think about how easy it would be if they were that kind of attracted to each other, but they're just not.

Ford I can see being even sluttier than we all imagine Shep to be. He's probably been getting laid constantly and no one even knows it.

YES!!! And Shep will DIEEEE when he finds this out. And Teyla (with slight jealousy, but, still) and Elizabeth will also find this HILARIOUS. And McKay probably will too, because, HA, at least it's not Sheppard. And Ford'll be all *sly grin* because, hey, it's not HIS fault that he knows how to be subtle about it.

They've got a long way to go before they get there - that is one of the things that I like best about their relationship. They will be perfect for each other, but they are nowhere near realizing it yet. I LOVE that shit!

*SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!* YES! And the path they need to travel is so nicely obvious after episodes like "Hot Zone." Man. They are so freaking cute. And awesome. And YAY. I love my OTP.
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Little Red: sga - love of a hero - lizmylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 10:42 pm (UTC)
They are both too strong to just jump into a meaningful relationship with someone who is their equal. It will take a long time before either one of them would be willing to put themselves in that position.

That's a really good point.

I've been thinking a lot lately about Elizabeth's relationship with Simon, and the CURRENT conclusion I'm working with is that she knew him most of her adult life. They got together in college and were sort of... on-again-off-again ever since. They have both left the other more than once for a job opportunity, a faraway business deal, even another relationship. (Remember how in "Rising" Lizzie said "you know me well enough to know I could never turn down an opportunity like this"?) Their relationship is comfortable and not possessive -- something Elizabeth can always come home to if he's not with someone else, and as friends if he is, and someone she genuinely cares about and will WANT him to be happy and find someone else if he can. But the non-possessive thing is key -- he's not getting in the way of her life or making demands on her.

A relationship with someone like Sheppard will require her to give up more of herself. It won't be comfortable, because he's going to be challenging her in every possible way, and while that's going to be incredible and really is probably what she needs to keep her interest and really satisfy her, it's not something she will easily sign herself up for.

I am mostly staying open to the idea of the 'ship because it seemed that TPTB wanted to go in that direction originally. I figure, why be annoyed if they do?

You know, I am SO detached from reality that the show and the fandom have become very different animals in my head and actually had a "wha? how would that matter?" moment. I'll have to see what my reaction is when they actually *do* get together, though.

Aiden? Never liked the name in general and it really doesn't suit him.

It'll be like Fox Mulder. The first name appears in fanfic and I feel like my spine is on fire.

In general, I adore slowly developing relationships. I love to see things unfold despite obstacles, etc. It is so much more interesting to me than having people fall in love with each other immediately.

I agree!!!! Totally! But my insane fanficky impatience is making me amuse myself a lot with their likenesses in the meantime.
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Little Red: sg - cult - me!mylittleredgirl on January 6th, 2005 11:04 pm (UTC)
She loves him, but she is not madly in love with him, if you know what I mean. It's called settling, folks.

Exactly. And she must have gotten her heart broken in young affairs or whatever at least once, and this is just BETTER. She doesn't think of it as settling. She thinks of it as convenient.

And actually, with the relationship we've just set up... the whole telling his VCR goodbye and going to another galaxy but expecting him to still let her back in (a la "Home") makes total sense. She's NOT being evil. This is just the way their relationship goes. And of course he's still the most important person on Earth to her, and she loves and cares about him, but she doesn't really think about him all that much and only misses him when she's actually lonely or wants someone to fall into (like, after "The Eye," probably). Hmm. I like this.

the world has much more to offer Lizzie than she previously realized.

And she will fight it all the way, and it will BLOW HER MIND with the goodness.

And yay, Sheppard still falls first and falls hard. Love that. Poor guy.

He hasn't picked out any Atlantis 'ships yet, but if he does, they wil probably be whatever he sees on the screen.

That's like my sister!! She's ship-OBLIVIOUS, yo. Things have to be reeeeeally blatant for her to pick up on it, and she really just doesn't understand why I care to hang on every non-blatant detail. She finds it funny to talk about possible 'ship pairings and all, and we've got a cute little hand gesture for "omg CUTE!" at the TV for pairings she has already acknowledged, but she doesn't understand why I start flapping at the TV whenever Sheppard and Weir are on-screen together.

Is it wrong that I snarf out any liquid in the vicinity through my nose whenever I think of his real name?

I think it's probably more wrong that I don't. I grew up with way too many hippies. I have a coworker who, as a GROWN UP WOMAN, changed her name to "Grandmother Rainbow Woman." LEGALLY. Another dude is now "Heartman." (No last name. Just. Heartman.). So I totally know the type who must have bestowed this ridiculous name on that poor boy.
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Little Red: sg - cult - me!mylittleredgirl on January 7th, 2005 01:07 am (UTC)
Maybe. But maybe, overall, he has done the same thing a few times. Or also loves her 100% but is not in love with her in a similar way, but just doesn't have the same drive to change his life and find more interesting things. I think he was very surprised this time, because maybe this time things were going REALLY WELL (although, really, how good could they have been going when she's been in Antarctica for God-knows how long?). But I can't get so far as seeing him having an intensely passionate love for her because I think that would've gotten possessive in some way and would've long scared her off.

Oh yeah. That is the way it HAS to be!

I love it. I just can't get over how awesome that's going to be. I can't stand the idea of Lizzie sitting around and pining for HIM and getting jealous of him and being the one to make all the initial compromises.

I wonder if she will at any point *try* to love him like she loves Simon -- deeply, very caringly, but not PASSIONATELY. You know, try and box him into her comfortable little boyfriend-label where she doesn't have to feel like she's dying whenever he's in danger or neeeeed to be with him afterwards or whatever.

He is quite pathetically eager for all characters to fall in love.

Awwwww!! And I have to like the male character in order to care, too. They need to deserve sex. My love of Daniel/Janet goes up and down depending on my Daniel-esteem that day.

Well, golly gee, doesn't that just take the cake?

It really does. The funny thing is that, in this whole dramatic slew of crazy hippie names (while most of us actually had Sanskrit names, which is what I ended up with, there were a few random hippie names too!), I declared at age 9 that I was changing my name to "Elizabeth"... because I wanted something different.

Heck, my dad picked out "Ann" as the middle name for both my twin sister and I. Can you get any less imaginative than that?

HA! *laughs out loud* Erm. Sorry. This amuses me. At least no one horribly mispronounces your name? Or, like, laughs at you while taking attendence? OMG, Rainbow must've gotten beaten up ALL THE DAMNED TIME in school.